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General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 3-10-18 Now On Line
« on: March 10, 2018, 08:11:02 AM »

Will Medallion Values Rise?

General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 3-4-18 Now On Line
« on: March 04, 2018, 12:23:50 PM »

Mile Abe and Carolyn talk about FHV proposed bill

General Discussion / Re: ready set go!!
« on: February 26, 2018, 02:41:16 PM »
Taxi Dave, we love ya, Go Caroline on NY1, ready set go!!! until we celebrate


General Discussion / Taxi Medallion Blog
« on: February 22, 2018, 09:29:19 AM »

General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 2-19-18 Now On Line
« on: February 19, 2018, 05:18:34 PM »

General Discussion / Doug Schifter's Brother
« on: February 16, 2018, 08:33:27 PM »
I just got word that Doug Schifter's Brother George Schifter will be on the Taxi Dave Show this Sunday

General Discussion / Re: Let’s start a price war, seriously!
« on: February 13, 2018, 11:54:11 AM »
If you want to start a price war you have to get hundreds of people involved. How are you going to do that? This is just another fantasy otherwise.

General Discussion / Re: CC Meeting
« on: February 13, 2018, 08:45:37 AM »
Medallion taxis should get exclusive rights to the "Exclusionary Zone" for all business APP, Radio and Street Hail. And be part of all other zones however called. the medallion paid for it.

The Green taxis should get rights to street hails in the other zones along with App and Radio

The black cars should be capped and be able to do what is really Pre-arranged by app or radio

The livery drivers can take radio or app calls out of the Exclusionary Zone.

All segments should be capped.

What's so hard to understand?

General Discussion / Doug Schifter
« on: February 07, 2018, 07:10:15 PM »
I was forwarded this email:

Dear Drivers:

It is so heartening to see professional drivers coming together in these difficult times.

For those of you who wish to pay your respects, tomorrow there is a memorial service for brother Douglas Schifter in West Babylon, Long Island:

Thursday, February 9 at 11:30 AM
New Montefiore Jewish Cemetery
1180 Wellwood Ave
West Babylon, NY 11704

Click here for more photos from our City Hall vigil for Douglas Schifter.
Douglas Schifter was driven to financial ruin by Wall Street greed. Ubernomics is not an act of god, it is not inevitable: it is the result of choices that our legislators have made to deregulate our industry with the financial backing of Uber, Lyft, and their cohorts - who spend more on lobbying than Microsoft, Walmart and Amazon combined.

United, we have the strength to demand change. We need
a cap on the number of vehicles in New York City, and
the metered fare for Yellow and Green Cabs should be the rate floor for all for-hire vehicles so that drivers can earn a living wage.

If you haven't already, now is the time to join our union.

Together, we can and will save our full-time professional and reign in a business model that is determined to destroy our livelihood.

Below is the full text of yesterday's New York Times column highlighting drivers' struggle in the gig economy.

A Driver's Suicide Reveals the Dark Side of the Gig Economy


Doug Schifter, a New York livery driver, said he killed himself to illuminate how ride hailing services have devastated taxi workers financially.Creditvia Black Car News

Last spring, Bhairavi Desai, a middle-aged woman without a driver's license and thus an unlikely leader for thousands of mostly male drivers in the world's largest market for hired vehicles, delivered emotional testimony in front of New York City's Taxi & Limousine Commission about the mounting existential difficulties in her field.

The executive director of the New York Taxi Workers Alliance, Ms. Desai had been a labor activist for 21 years but she had never seen anything like the despair she was witnessing now - the bankruptcies, foreclosures and eviction notices plaguing drivers who were calling her with questions about how to navigate homelessness and paralyzing depression.

"Half my heart is just crushed,'' she said, "and the other half is on fire."

The economic hardship that Uber and its competitors had inflicted on conventional drivers in New York and London and other cities had become overwhelming. For decades there had been no more than approximately 12,000 to 13,000 taxis in New York but now there were myriad new ways to avoid public transportation, in some cases with ride-hailing services like Via that charged little more than $5 to travel in Manhattan. In 2013, there were 47,000 for-hire vehicles in the city. Now there were more than 100,000, approximately two-thirds of them affiliated with Uber.

While Uber has sold that "disruption" as positive for riders, for many taxi workers, it has been devastating. Between 2013 and 2016, the gross annual bookings of full-time yellow-taxi drivers in New York, working during the day when fares are typically highest, fell from $88,000 a year to just over $69,000. Medallions, which grant the right to operate a taxi in New York City, were now depreciating assets and drivers who had borrowed money to pay for them, once a sound investment strategy, were deeply in debt. Ms. Desai was routinely seeing grown men cry and she had become increasingly concerned about the possibility that they would begin taking their lives.

On Monday morning, Doug Schifter, a livery driver in his early 60s, killed himself with a shotgun in front of City Hall in Lower Manhattan, having written a lengthy Facebook post several hours earlier laying out the structural cruelties that had left him in such dire circumstance. He was now sometimes forced to work more than 100 hours a week to survive, he said; when he had started out in the 1980s, a 40-hour week was fairly typical. He blamed politicians - mayors Michael R. Bloomberg and Bill de Blasio, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo - and their acquiescence to the rich for permitting so many cars to flood the streets. He blamed the Taxi Commission for the fines and hassles it imposed.

He had lost his health insurance and accrued credit card debt and he would no longer work for "chump change,'' preferring, he said, to die in the hope that his sacrifice would draw attention to what drivers, too often unable to feed their families now, were enduring. He had forecast all of this doom in columns he had written for a trade publication called Black Car News, he wrote, but few had listened to him.

Implicit in his testament was the anger he felt over the de-professionalization of his life's work. Mr. Schifter had driven more than five million miles throughout his tenure, through five hurricanes and 50 snowstorms. He had chauffeured celebrities and worn a suit. He was not driving a car to supplement the income he was getting from his crepe business and he was not trying to make a little extra money for massage. He was not a participant in the gig economy; he was a casualty of it.

For at least a century, the suicide as spectacle, prompted by a reversal of fortune, has typically been the practice of the wealthy. In the months after Wall Street's crash in 1929, four people threw themselves out windows in New York (leading to the folklore that there had been many, many more such deaths). Decades later, Bernie Madoff's son Mark hanged himself from a dog leash in his SoHo apartment. In 2016, Sanjay Valvani, a hedge fund manager accused of insider trading, slashed his throat in the bedroom of his Brooklyn townhouse, to much sensation in the tabloid and financial press. Poverty too often kills you without making you try.

For taxi drivers staring down an even bleaker future of driverless cars at a moment when Washington considers a weekly paycheck bump of $1.50 an occasion to break out the layer cake, it is hard to see where the metaphoric Prozac will come from.

The problems facing the city's taxi drivers have become so bad, Ms. Desai said, that even on New Year's Eve many complained that they roamed around unable to pick up fares. At about that time she had received a call from a woman who runs a community radio station in the Bronx, with an audience made up mostly of Dominican livery drivers. Two drivers that the host knew of had killed themselves and other drivers were on the show talking about the isolation and fear they saw all around them.

In the days preceding his death, Mr. Schifter wrote about his decreasing faith in our politics and about his commitments to his spiritual life. "Forget the cliché you only live once it is not true," he said in a Facebook post. "The clues are all about you if you take the time to seek them."

In Solidarity,
Bhairavi Desai
NYTWA Executive Director

Here is his suicide note:

To those it may concern,

I have been financially ruined because three politicians destroyed my industry and livelihood and Corporate NY stole my services at rates far below fair levels. I worked 100-120 consecutive hours almost every week for the past fourteen plus years. When the industry started in 1981, I averaged 40-50 hours. I cannot survive any longer with working 120 hours! I am not a Slave and I refuse to be one.

Companies do not care how they abuse us just so the executives get their bonuses. They have not paid us fair rates for some time now. Due to the huge numbers of cars available with desperate drivers trying to feed their families they squeeze rates to below operating costs and force professionals like me out of business. They count their money and we are driven down into the streets we drive becoming homeless and hungry. I will not be a slave working for chump change. I would rather be dead.

Bloomberg, deBlasio and Andrew Cuomo have each had their part in destroying a once thriving industry. There are over 100,000 of us suffering daily now. It is the new slavery. The politicians flooded the streets with Black Cars and Taxis. I warned them four years ago in my Column in the Black Car News. I told them why it would destroy the industry, how it would destroy the industry and they kept doing it anyway ignoring everything and everybody. I warned of the impending collapse of the yellow medallions more than a year before it happened. No one stopped it. That old law was working and it was there to prevent exactly what Cuomo Allowed. The control of the numbers of taxi medallions was never supposed to return to the Mayor.

Bloomberg started everything by appealing to Albany to remove the law limiting taxis in NYC. It was in place for over one hundred years and worked! It was there for a reason. It took away control from local politicians. It limited competition so in bad times everyone still made a good living. Now there are too many feeding off the same pie and there is not enough for every one.
All that is needed now for a total disaster is a serious downturn in the economy reducing riders and there will be at least a half million people hit hard. Downturns always come. It is a certainty and a matter of time. History will repeat itself.

With 100,000 families and counting spouses and dependents and peripheral professionals and their families dependent on the drivers there must easily be a half million people that depend on income from this profession now. Bloomberg added 18,000 unneeded green cabs. That took more business away from Black and Yellow Cabs. He mandated a freeze on processing replacement Black Cars just as I had to replace mine. I was lucky, it only took only nine weeks to get mine done. I lost the entire busy season before Christmas. I had to buy and insure the vehicle before I could register it so I could also then license it. TLC would not process my application because they wanted their $75 inspection fee for a brand new car out of the showroom in addition to the state inspection already performed. I paid the loan and the insurance for more than two months before I saw any income. That cost between $20,000 and $30,000 and was a serious loss. I never recovered from the delay. My meager savings destroyed. I did manage to put something away but my financial cushion never developed. deBlasio stopped a traffic study on the impact of Uber. That would have revealed the true traffic impact of so many cars and shown the need to freeze car levels. There seems to be a strong bias by the Mayor and Governor in favor of Uber. A Company that is a known liar, cheat and thief. Cuomo allowed the removal of controls and allowed unlimited cars on the road. Cuomo also placed State Troopers in NYC to patrol and issue moving violations. This never happened before in my lifetime. He has turned the city into a police state.
We are being destroyed by our Government individually as well as an industry. When will they realize what they are doing to us? What does it take to bring us the attention we need to stop the Government?
Why is the Government destroying people's lives? The Government is supposed to help the people not destroy them!
When will everybody awaken to the dangers?

I know I am doing all I can the rest is up to you. Wake up and resist!

As for our industry;
There was always meant to be numbers of cars below the demand. That was the guarantee of a steady income.
Now the politicians have flooded the streets with unlimited cars and some 3000 new ones every month still coming. There is not enough work for everybody that pays a living. This is SLAVERY NOW.
They are destroying many thousands of families financially. I don't know how else to try to make a difference other than a public display of a most private affair. No one listened to the warnings in my column or changed anything.

I am not a new driver and I was the most skilled and experienced driver to my knowledge in the business. I had almost 5 million miles experience, driven through five hurricanes and over 50 deep snow and blizzard conditions. I have driven over 100 world famous celebrities including Michael Bloomberg's daughters and mother, the family of the man who destroyed me. A 44 year ultimate professional. I was a top chauffeur with the greatest limo company of all time. I was also a street legend in the industry over forty years ago. Passengers I never saw before told me about my reputation. More than a few saw incredible feats of driving. I didn't just fall off the Turnip Truck. I was the best and did not deserve to be ruined by stupid greedy uncaring politicians.
I have no more health insurance and am not enjoying good health.
No more vehicle as my GM engine failed twice this year as well as the transmission.
No more income to pay bills and maxed out credit cards I cannot pay.
I will lose my house and everything else.
I see no point to continue trying.

What is happening to our Country where the Government now destroys the people? We are not a government of the People, by the People and for the People any more. We are turning into a Government of the People, by the Corporation for the Rich. People are becoming enslaved and destroyed by politicians and companies with the aid of the rich and the corporations they control. They are doing it by bypassing the Laws or manipulating them. America is being stolen. Your future and your families future is being stolen right now.

The whole purpose of life is to learn, teach and love.
To care for each other and better our souls but the people are being enslaved. This is against G-d. He is about love and freedom and unity of spirit. This effort to enslave the population working for less and less continuing to erode the good life we are supposed to have is going to destroy America. All the benefits are going to the wealthy and super wealthy few instead of the great mass of His Children (The People).
It is against all of our standards as Americans. Politicians are now destroying this Country and the people in it. This is partially because we allow legal bribery through campaign donations. The people are losing control of Government and Government is not supposed to hurt the People. The Republican party is doing most of the damage. Government has been baded by democrats too. It is nearly impossible to get fair treatment in New York City adjudication courts. Parking and moving violations are completely baded. So is the appeals process. Add an ambitious cop who is willing to lie a little and the system is a total shakedown process threatening your rights and happiness.
We are being shaken down by politicians who sell out to the biggest contributors to their greed and power. The Taxi Commission overburdens us with unending over-regulation and astronomical fines and hassles. They do not consider the impact of their actions or care.

We are on an increasing downward spiral toward loss of liberties and happiness. We are not doing enough to fight ignorance and hatred. We are not a great country if we cannot afford to care for those in need. We are not a great country if we allow Politicians to destroy lives. We are not a great country if we allow hatred of others because of where they were born or who they are.

Forget about great country....we are not even good people if we do not care for others in need. Most of the civilized world cares for their own except here where republicans who do not need more money to survive seek to get all they can get from companies and the rich and then take away all they can from the people.

Please do no harm to others. You will create equal problems for yourself. ( also paraphrasing the words of Christ). Karma is very real.
Remember Love is His greatest gift and you can take it with you and that Hatred is the path of evil. Promote love and squash hate.

I hope with the public sacrifice I make now that some attention to the plight of the drivers and the people will be done to save them and it will have not have been in vain and also that we must stop what is happening to Government while we still have one we can vote out. There is no choice. America is under attack by Russia. They do not need weapons. They bought their influence.

It is too late for me so who is next? Maybe you and yours? Everyone needs to fix this now.

Fight the Treasonous Republicans. Resist!
Government of all the People, by all the People and for all the People forever!

Douglas Schifter

General Discussion / The Fare Is Not Fair-Everyone should pay
« on: February 05, 2018, 11:34:07 AM »
When it comes to who is going to pay for the billions of $$$ it will take to fix the Subway system they are asking too much of the entire FHV/TAXI system and very little from everyone else. Every business in NYC and even the entire State of NY should be contributing. The system has an effect on the economy of places way beyond the boundaries of NYC. Just one $ a day form every business in the State would be a lot more fair to pay for this.

General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 1-31-18 Now on Line
« on: January 31, 2018, 09:43:48 PM »

Mike and Abe
Talk about Cogestion
Who Should Pay to solve the problems?

General Discussion / Re: Taxi Dave Show 1-28-17-Encouraging
« on: January 29, 2018, 02:37:45 PM »
I don't remember. I'll have to re listen

General Discussion / Re: Taxi Dave Show 1-28-17-Encouraging
« on: January 29, 2018, 12:12:55 PM »
Did you listen....I like that the talk is taking place on our home court.

General Discussion / Taxi Dave Show 1-28-17-Encouraging
« on: January 28, 2018, 09:56:42 PM »

General Discussion / Written Last April
« on: January 27, 2018, 03:04:28 PM »

This was written last April...I was asked to bring it back to read


NYC Taxi Metered Fares ...

I feel the following new rate-of-fare structure should be implemented.
A fare increase should be awarded immediately to offset basic operating &
cost-of-living expenses that have risen for New York City yellow cab drivers.

This NEW fare increase will also greatly improve the current taxi driver shortage !!

Due to the new 'Vision Zero' rules, the City's speed limit has been reduced from 30 MPH to 25 MPH.
Therefore, the NEW rate for metered waiting time should be directly proportionate to that reduced speed limit -
i.e. change the existing waiting time of $30.00 per hour to approx. $36.00 per hour.
The calibration should run at a rate of sixty cents (.60) per minute, and 'minutes' should
include all 'partial' minutes that add up to FULL minutes of stopped or slow traffic.


We should return to the metered rate for ALL fares within the borders of New York City.
The 'security' advantages of the JFK 'Flat Rate' are now obsolete due to the advent of new GPS & trip sheet technology.
Drivers - AND passengers - deserve the proper rate of fare, and the flat rate often results in DRASTIC fluctuations in
taxi driver earnings & passenger expenses .

3) Increase the 'Rush Hour' Surcharge -
The current 'rush hour' surcharge of $1.00 per trip should be increased to $2.00 per trip
and shall be in effect Mon. thru Friday - INCLUDING all legal holidays -
between 7 am to 10 am and 5 pm to 8 pm

There should be a minimum charge for luggage and other items that involve an 'extra step'
in the street hailing process. The trunk and/or luggage charge should be a minimum of $2.00     

The metered rolling time should be raised from fifty cents (.50) per 1/5 mile to fifty cents (.50) per 1/6 mile.

The initial metered 'drop' should only be raised from $2.50 to $2.75
This 'drop' should always be equal to NYC-MTA fares - and should be kept low to incentivize ridership.

The metered fare shall allow two (2) passenger stops.
Any fare continuing on after the second stop shall allow the driver to completely reset the meter.

7) Newark Airport...
The fare shall be the standard New York City rate, with an initial 'drop' charge of $25.00 - plus any tolls.

8) Nassau & Westchester Counties ...
The fare shall ALSO be the standard New York City rate, with an initial 'drop' charge of $25.00 - plus any tolls.

9) Group rides shall be re-introduced at LaGuardia & JFK Airports,
with legitimate taxi dispatching personnel.
- Penn Station & Manhattan's Port Authority terminals
should also have this option for drivers and passengers.

10) Allow An 'Event Surcharge' for high-volume locations
Citi Field, Yankee Stadium, Brooklyn Piers,
West Side Piers, Javits Convention Center, Barclay Center,
Madison Square Garden, Arthur Ashe Stadium, JFK, LGA... HELLO ?!?!

11) ALL drivers will be allowed to request PAYMENT IN ADVANCE
from passengers for ALL trips over $20.00.

12) Lease Cap Provisions...
There should be a fair and equitable distribution
of the new fare increase between taxi owners & drivers.
** There should also be a NEW option of DAILY rates and HOURLY rates **
Driver retention, quality vehicles and public safety depend on it !!
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General Discussion / Re: 39-40st St Taxi Stand sign is gone.
« on: January 26, 2018, 08:49:30 AM »
I guess they don't want you to wait over there. Why is puzzling. At least the waiting is still in front of both PA Buildings between 40 and 42 street.

General Discussion / Re: Judge Alison J. Nathan, where she went wrong
« on: January 24, 2018, 02:49:01 PM »
When you wrote this yesterday was it because of a decision made by the court.....I haven't heard of any. Have you?

General Discussion / Re: Judge Alison J. Nathan, where she went wrong
« on: January 24, 2018, 09:12:23 AM »
So, what good does it do for us now that the "Barn Door is Closed"....???

Those who have fought the case "BLEW IT". How can we fix it?  Is it possible? That's all that matters now.

General Discussion / Now it's Your Turn
« on: January 22, 2018, 03:20:30 PM »
We can't have our Rates on The Doors but we can wear them

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General Discussion / Re: Only light in tunnel
« on: January 22, 2018, 03:09:52 PM »
Only Time will tell

General Discussion / Re: Congestion Pricing
« on: January 20, 2018, 06:54:41 AM »
Peter, You are right...It will really suck! I just posted this video

General Discussion / Re: Congestion Pricing
« on: January 20, 2018, 05:00:18 AM »
Yes I read it! Has it been passed in Albany? No! And even if it is it will apply to all FHV's. The sky is not falling! It will be dealt with.

Here is more:

General Discussion / Re: Congestion Pricing
« on: January 19, 2018, 08:26:00 PM »
Well, It's not being reported anywhere else....At least for now....

General Discussion / Re: Congestion Pricing
« on: January 19, 2018, 05:19:35 PM »

Where did you hear this?

General Discussion / Re: Congestion Pricing
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:44:02 AM »
Would the passengers pay every time you crossed 6oth st? Or would they stop at 61s t street and walk over the line? We have to wait and see what is implemented.

General Discussion / Rates on The Doors? No! Rates on the Shirts
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:41:02 AM »
We can't have our rates on the doors
But we can have them on our clothing

Let's show them that we can be independent!
I'm envisioning every taxi driver will ware the design I created.
Is it not worth the investment?

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General Discussion / Re: Congestion Pricing
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:30:53 AM »
Anyone know whether this is good for us or not?

Depends on if the Taxis are exempt. If so, it's great. If not, it really would suck.

« on: January 18, 2018, 09:39:31 AM »
I'll buy the coffee!

General Discussion / Re: Medallion Sales
« on: January 16, 2018, 05:13:30 PM »
This leaves two questions:

What do these "Hedge Fund" people know that makes them want to buy? To me this is a good sign. Why would any body invest anything if there was no future to it gaining?


When and under what circumstances will there be financial institutions willing to lend?

General Discussion / Re: Medallion Sales
« on: January 16, 2018, 04:53:51 PM »
5 Medallions sold for $875,000 or $175,000 per medallion

General Discussion / Re: Riding over cobblestones
« on: January 14, 2018, 08:30:13 PM »
You're right. They are wrong and they know it.But for what ever reason they don't care....What's so hard to see. This is what the reality is! How do you get what is right to win? This has been the question all along! No one has the answer. The courts have been blinded. Why?

General Discussion / Re: Where is everybody?!!!!!!
« on: January 14, 2018, 09:36:31 AM »
I'm Here

General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 1-11-18 Now on Line
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:34:04 PM »

Mike and Abe
Talk about Access a Ride
Did Travis steal our money?
Crain's Article "Wishful Thinking"
And More

General Discussion / Re: I Wonder Whos Behind THIS...??...!!!!
« on: January 08, 2018, 05:27:37 PM »
The video is dated Nov 2 2016.....Funny we are now seeing it....But good that we are!

General Discussion / Re: We might as well start taking about this
« on: January 07, 2018, 07:42:45 PM »
I want a trial by jury by my peers.

So do I. For some time I thought we would get it....I don't see that happening as of now. I hope I'm wrong.

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General Discussion / Mike and Abe 1-5-18 Now on Line
« on: January 05, 2018, 07:09:47 AM »

Mike and Abe
Talk about Apps in Taxis
Congestion Fix

General Discussion / Re: so they need to pay us
« on: December 28, 2017, 02:52:49 PM »
I predicted many years ago this would happen. I should have listened to myself!

General Discussion / Re: We might as well start taking about this
« on: December 28, 2017, 02:51:16 PM »
I think it is extremely important. It could right the wrong. Does anyone know when it is coming?

The city worked fine before UBER and the others invaded.....What part of this is not understood by the people that run the city and regulate the FHV's?

They should have never been allowed to operate in mid town? They know it but continue to do nothing about it. Something has to give! It can't continue like this forever.

General Discussion / Re: Empty Seats Full Streets-Shaller Consulting
« on: December 25, 2017, 11:00:10 AM »
It's not Shaller's job to promote anything. He's just a statistician. But you are right about if more people used yellow apps there would be less Black cars. This is why the second yellow car would work if we would promote ourselves. It up to us to do the promoting.

General Discussion / Mike and Abe will Return Next Week
« on: December 24, 2017, 12:16:26 PM »
Show Postponed for Xmas will return next week

General Discussion / Re: Empty Seats Full Streets-Shaller Consulting
« on: December 22, 2017, 12:02:55 PM »
Disagree,  Ehail is part of our future ,  it’ll take fares from Uber

I agree with Citytaxistreets..

General Discussion / Re: Arro and Curb
« on: December 20, 2017, 09:23:20 PM »

General Discussion / The Salem Plan
« on: December 20, 2017, 05:47:40 PM »
The Salem Plan - How to remonetize taxi medallions and maximize the utility of for hire vehicles"

General Discussion / Taxi Dave 12-17-17-Great News on Tonights show
« on: December 17, 2017, 09:45:49 PM »

Carolyn brings some great news to the show

General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 12-17-17 Now on Line
« on: December 17, 2017, 05:04:56 PM »

Mike and Abe Talk about
WAV Drivers
Upcoming Medallion Auction

General Discussion / Re: Riding over cobblestones
« on: December 17, 2017, 04:07:24 PM »
It's true but they won't listen!  They know but they don't care.

General Discussion / Re: We might as well start taking about this
« on: December 16, 2017, 06:13:13 PM »
I forgot, I thought it was decided!  Wow....Perhaps more was said and we got our point across.

I'm so depressed over all this that I forgot it was still open......Should I keep my head high and believe we can really win in the end? Is there anyone out there that will do right and give us our due? Is it really possible?

General Discussion / Re: We might as well start taking about this
« on: December 16, 2017, 04:28:26 PM »
Are we playing 20 Questions? A decision on what?

General Discussion / Re: We might as well start taking about this
« on: December 16, 2017, 02:50:12 PM »
Fill us in....What are you referring to?

General Discussion / Re: 2nd car
« on: December 16, 2017, 10:39:00 AM »
Some of my drivers are making as much as ever, strong day men and wise night drivers are doing good

To this I agree 100%

General Discussion / Mike and Abe are Back 12-13-17
« on: December 13, 2017, 09:03:47 AM »

Mike and Abe
Talk about Apps and Extra Yellows

General Discussion / Re: Now and in the future
« on: December 07, 2017, 06:42:13 PM »
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       A. 8691                             8
    1  twenty percent requirement provided in subdivision (b) of  section  five
    2  of  this  act  must  be met prior to the issuance of any additional HAIL
    3  licenses.
    4    (c)  The disabled accessibility plan shall be prepared in consultation
    5  and cooperation with disability rights advocates and other  stakeholders
    6  and  shall  be  submitted to the council of the city of New York for its
    7  comments, which comments shall be considered by the  TLC  prior  to  its
    8  submission  to  the New York state department of transportation. The New
    9  York state department of transportation may recommend changes or  amend-
   10  ments  to  the  TLC  as  a condition of its approval and must approve or
   11  reject the disabled accessibility plan within sixty days  of  submission
   12  by  the  TLC.  The city of New York, acting through the TLC, and the New
   13  York state  department  of  transportation  are  hereby  authorized  and
   14  empowered  to take such actions as are necessary and desirable to imple-
   15  ment the provisions of this section, subject only to the procedures  and
   16  limitations  set  forth  in  this  section, and shall not be required to
   17  engage in any review provided for by any provision of  law  or  make  or
   18  obtain any determination not expressly required by this act.
   19    (d)  The TLC shall not be permitted to issue more than four hundred of
   20  the taxicab licenses authorized to be issued pursuant to this act  until
   21  this  plan  is  approved by the New York state department of transporta-
   22  tion.  Upon such approval by such department, the issuance by the TLC of
   23  more than four hundred taxicab licenses pursuant to this act  shall  not
   24  be affected by the pendency, the final determination or other outcome of
   25  any  action  or  proceeding  to  which  the New York state department of
   26  transportation or its commissioner is a party that seeks to challenge or
   27  invalidate the approved disabled accessibility plan or any portion ther-
   28  eof.
   29    S 11. Notwithstanding any of the foregoing it shall remain the  exclu-
   30  sive  right  of  existing  and future taxicabs licensed by the TLC as a
   31  taxicab to pick up passengers via street hail in such areas of the  city
   32  of  New  York wherein HAIL license holders are prohibited from accepting
   33  such passengers. All vehicles licensed by the TLC as taxicabs  shall  be
   34  permitted to pick up passengers via street hail from any location within
   35  the  city  of New York unless the pick-up of passengers is prohibited by
   36  law. No driver of any for-hire vehicle shall accept a  passenger  within
   37  the  city  of  New  York by means other than pre-arrangement with a base
   38  unless said driver is operating either a (i) taxicab licensed by the TLC
   39  with a medallion affixed thereto, or (ii) a vehicle with  a  valid  HAIL
   40  license  and said passenger is hailing the vehicle from a location where
   41  street hails of such vehicles are permitted.
   42    S 12. Section 1280 of the tax law  is  amended  by  adding  seven  new
   43  subdivisions (o), (p), (q), (r), (s), (t) and (u) to read as follows:

General Discussion / Re: Now and in the future
« on: December 07, 2017, 02:40:05 PM »
You're correct. Where do you see this? Can you give us a link?

General Discussion / Re: Damning Proof
« on: December 06, 2017, 02:58:44 PM »
We always knew that! So, did the people that let them run over us!

General Discussion / Cash Cab
« on: December 05, 2017, 04:53:55 PM »
Just watched the return of Cash cab on The Discovery Channel. I wonder what the story is on why they revived this great show and great promotion for the Yellow Industry? They should have a few of these taxis out there. That would get a lot of attention!

Here is a photo of myself and Ben Baily the host of the show. This photo was taken in about 2008 at a TLC event I was invited to:

Click to enlarge.....

General Discussion / Re: Whaaa whaaa whaaaa ....;P
« on: December 02, 2017, 06:53:06 PM »
We are doing all we can! Or are we?

General Discussion / Re: Can Uber ever make money
« on: December 02, 2017, 06:52:24 PM »
Uber the company may never be profitable. But the private stock holders sure did a great job of stealing our medallion value. We can't sell a medallion but they can sell their private stock for millions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think having a web site that shows how many yellows are on the road at any given time is a great idea. How can that be achieved?

I also  think publicity is as important as any other idea. Perhaps inexpensive pamphlets can be produced and volunteers can hand them out to people at the bus station and airports and the train station.

The entire general public has to somehow know that taxis have Apps. This would help those who say they can't find a taxi. The extra taxi for each medallion should be specifically for App calls. 

Not so fast peter!

TMODA-Count me in!


General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 11-26-17 now on line
« on: November 26, 2017, 01:23:39 PM »

Mike and Abe Talk about
Uber Hack
How to make industry healthy
Seniority on Hack Licenses
and More

Concerning how people will get in touch without posting personal contact information you can send it to me and I can relay it to whom you want to contact.  Email

I have reconfigured this message board so 100 posts can be on one page. This is to eliminate any confusion. So if you think you missed anything re read the posts.

I'm not in NY but if I can be Skyped in I'm there.

Yes, the medallion going up is the objective. What I have listed are vital steps toward that goal.

Who's holding the money? Has a legal fund been established? I would suggest that those of you in NY who want to organize hire legal assistance to find out how this is done legally. Also, what are the objectives of the fund? All of this has to be in writing and registered. You can't just ask for money.

Here are my suggestions for what the objectives should be, others should list others they can think of.

1.Return taxi rates along with the Curb and Arro Apps on all taxi doors.
2.Encourage that there be one app for all taxis.
3.Pass city council Intro 1740 for the additional car per medallion
4.Public out reach to encourage more ridership and request of Intro 1740 be passed
5. Demand that only Medallion taxis can pick up in the exclusionary zone that was established with the Borough taxi law. East side south of 96th Street and west side South of 110th Street.
6. A Fare Increase to adjust to the Consumer price index that has gone up 10% since the last increase in 2012
7. Removal of partitions and the very much hated "Taxi TV"

If $1000 was collected from 13000 taxis that would equal $13,000,000 

That would mean that not only individual owners have to put up $1000 each but fleet owners would have to match this with 1000x the number of taxis.

Doable? yes. Likely? Not very.

How do you unite all of the segments of the yellow industry for something like this?

May be it can be done for less money? How much would actually be needed?  How can this happen? Who will be in charge? Who will hold and distribute the money to get it done?

Who has the knowledge to get it done?

Answer those questions for real and may be it can happen, Other wise it is just wishful thinking!

So this is a great idea. How are we going to fund it?

I see thee are many people that have read this and the other messages. You all know who you are. But I'm the only one who has commented. Why have all of you others not commented or registered to comment? Don't want to register? email:  Tell us why? Can you at least do that? 


Great show. We all know the truth and this show correctly states it.  That so, all that can be said is that if the Government isn't providing the solution then the Government is part of the problem!

General Discussion / This Message Board-The Process of Contributing
« on: November 17, 2017, 08:43:00 PM »
To all those reading this board and not participating:

USE IT OR LOSE IT....................THE CHOICE IS YOURS..................ONE CLICK AND IT'S GONE

If you are not participating because of what you may think is difficult to register, the purpose of the registration process is for protecting from spammers, of such there are thousands. So, I, as administrator, must check out if you are one of them. You can first email me and tell me what your purpose is and I will have an easier time to approve you,  We need your input! We are not getting it form the hundreds of readers to this board, only a few have been doing so.

checked online

So where does this leave us?   We need a decision.

There is no ruling yet!!!!

Do You know that? I haven't heard one way or the other...

General Discussion / Re: We need To Have the Apps on Taxi Doors
« on: November 13, 2017, 02:42:55 PM »
We need for the public to know that the Apps are available.....More don't know than do know!!!

The appeals court screwed us. They made up their own definition. I wonder who got to them before the hearing?

General Discussion / We need To Have the Apps on Taxi Doors
« on: November 12, 2017, 02:25:58 PM »
We Need to have the Taxi Apps on the Doors:

Look at this picture of a taxi in Ft. Lauderdale Florida. If this was on all  the NYC taxis everyone would know that NYC Taxis have apps

Click picture to enlarge

General Discussion / Mike and Abe Show 11-12-17 Now on Line
« on: November 12, 2017, 12:56:36 PM »

Mike and Abe
Talk about
The WAV Problems
The App problems
Medallion Owners Organizing

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